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    Paper at Wikimania, Who are the 100 Women in Red?

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    @Rosiestep:, @Cmwaura: and I have a talk which we hope to present at Wikimania in August. Its titled "“Mexico City to Nairobi is over 9000 miles - Why did it take ten years and 200,000 women to get here?". Do go and have a look. It includes the sections "we were.... joined by hundreds of other editors ... We will profile a few and table a longer list". Who should they be? and........ "new biographies. Who are the stand-out discoveries?" In both cases we can only mention a few, but we will "table a longer list". I'm particularly interested in the latter.... I'm thinking "100 Women in Red". When we started Emmeline Pankhurst, Marie Curie, Nefertiti and Winnie Mandela already had a page .... who have we "found"? Who the most interesting and intriguing 100 discoveries The start might be

    Who are the other 98? We could get a (vanity) book printed? Victuallers (talk) 09:59, 30 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

    Assuming that our submission gets accepted... I'd like to add these two. That said, it took 325 WiR events to get to 20%, so maybe picking 1 name from each of the 325 event pages would also make sense? Also, I like the idea of publishing a (vanity) book. --Rosiestep (talk) 13:38, 30 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    The link to the proposal doesn't work to me - I think one of the authors might need to go to the proposal page and share a review link there (under a 'Share Proposal' header). But this proposed talk sounds absolutely fantastic! Women In Red is a wonderful corner of Wikipedia, and has achieved remarkable things. By the way, another Wikimania proposal which I put in might (as @Lajmmoore: suggested) be of interest to people here - on trying to increase the number of women from the less-represented half of the world in Wikidata. Dsp13 (talk) 23:13, 2 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    • Maria Lauder, the 6,000,000th EN-WP article
    • Deolinda Rodrigues, co-founder, Organization of Angolan Women, her legacy included a book, a movie, and a vandalized statue

    Does it have to be a biography? Please look at The Woman's Building (Chicago) :) --WomenArtistUpdates (talk) 18:04, 30 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

    Woman's Building Lemaire poster
    Another possible candidate for the "other 98" is Eunice Newton Foote (American scientist, inventor, and women's rights campaigner). -- Cl3phact0 (talk) 15:30, 14 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    other stuff
    Who were your favourites? Victuallers (talk) 09:37, 2 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    During the editathon I created a short article on the Holloway brooch. It has had many contributors over the years and many views. I learned so much about the UK suffrage movement by doing the research (a lot more than was reflected in the article). Another article I created on a suffragist was not created during year-long initiative. I had more than a year's worth of interest in the subject. I created Ida Mae Thompson in 2022. She has stuck in my mind as a representative of the suffrage movement in the United States. Not a big name, but was one of the women who kept the movement going. She stands in the shadows of Lila Meade Valentine and Adele Goodman Clark who easily took a place in Virginia history. I can imagine Thompson at her typewriter getting stuff done in the background. In the 30s she was tasked by WPA to do research. She assembled quite a history of the Virginia suffrage movement in a uniquely effective way...she contacted people she knew, and asked them to look in their attics for primary source documents. What are your favorites? --WomenArtistUpdates (talk) 01:03, 3 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Thanks WAU -I am still collating a list. Nokutela Dube just occurred to me. She would have been much more well known in South Africa, but she was cast aside because she didnt have children. Victuallers (talk) 10:52, 4 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Other stuff: Duxhurst Industrial Farm Colony, England's first industrial farm colony for alcoholic women. --Rosiestep (talk) 14:49, 4 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Just to add I'll be at Wikimania too!!! In terms of a book, I'll get back in touch with a publisher who got in touch with me last year and pass the details on Lajmmoore (talk) 08:38, 14 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    @Lajmmoore: (and anyone) that'd be cool. I have moved this page to here as it looked as if it was going to be archived soon and I want to polish it for a talk I'm giving next week. Feel free to edit it there, .... anyone? Oh and and I was wondering .... should be joint author this piece with all the women in red editors? Victuallers (talk) 15:08, 18 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

    Wikidata and Sister Projects: an online event

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    Hello WiR project members, I’m reaching out to ask if Women in Red would be interested in hosting a session at an upcoming online conference Wikidata and Sister Projects; which is focused on how Wikidata connects or supports Wikipedia, Commons, and the other Wikimedia projects.
    The event will run from May 29 to June 1, with 3–4 hours of programming each day, divided into 30-minute or 1-hour slots.

    I hope this would be a great opportunity to showcase how Wikidata supports your project—whether through structured data, tools, or workflows that assist in article creation, (perhaps something like using ListeriaBot or Wikidata-generated lists to track missing articles and guide editors in bridging content gaps). We would love for you to share your experiences, highlight useful tools, or present any Wikidata-related initiatives that have helped advance Women in Red’s mission.
    If you’re interested in hosting a session, please submit your proposal here: Session Proposal template. Feel free to reach out if you have any questions! Looking forward to your thoughts.
    - Danny Benjafield (WMDE) (talk) 13:02, 3 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

    Hello @Danny Benjafield (WMDE) thanks so much for this. I think @Oronsay has presented on how we use Wikidata elsewhere? It seems like a great thing for Women in Red to be involved in. I'm struggling for time at the moment as I'm finishing my phd, but perhaps @Rosiestep or @Victuallers might have time too? I know there are lots of others who are expert! Lajmmoore (talk) 13:31, 15 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Thanks for the ping, Lajmmoore and hi, Danny Benjafield (WMDE). I have a WikiPortrait photoshoot during that period, but June 1 is possibly okay. I'll take a look at the "Session Proposal template" later today. --Rosiestep (talk) 14:39, 15 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Hello @Rosiestep, thank you so much for having a look. If you have any questions about the event, please reach out. - Danny Benjafield (WMDE) (talk) 12:45, 22 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Hi Danny Benjafield (WMDE). I did look and my only issue is with time due to heavy travel schedule. --Rosiestep (talk) 13:40, 22 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Maybe @Dsp13 you'd be interested? Lajmmoore (talk) 13:32, 15 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

    31,920,948 pageviews in Mar 2025

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    Did you know that, according to toolforge/glamorgan, during the month of March 2025, there were 31,920,948 pageviews (only human views were counted) of Wikipedia articles (any/all language versions of Wikipedia) that contained photos (and other images) uploaded into this WiR category? Wow! So please keep uploading photos (and other images) within the scope of WiR to WiR's Wikimedia Commons category (click here for the 2025 category). Thank you. --Rosiestep (talk) 18:23, 3 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

    That's impressive @rosiestep... that is maybe remembered as "a million people per day see our pics". Victuallers (talk) 15:19, 15 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

    Draft:List of companies founded by women

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    Last year I created Draft:List of companies founded by women. Could end up being a very long list. Thriley (talk) 20:37, 3 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

    It could! Here is a wikidata query with a couple of thousand results. Dsp13 (talk) 15:06, 10 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Is there some automated way to include all the women listed in this category? CherryPie94 🍒🥧 (talk) 22:25, 12 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

    New draft: Jane Skripnik

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    Hi! I created a new draft as a replacement for an old draft with some issues, based on the recommendation of some editors. Looking for help on it, for my class. I am doing articles on Romanian women. Thank you in advance. Draft:Jane Skripnik

    Short summary on the sources I am confident in:

    I consider source 1- the National Press Agency to be the most reliable source. It was published in English and there is a similar article, but a little language available in Romanian language. English Article sources 1 translated in Romanian Language . National Agency reports on the activity of Moldovan government. It is highly unusual to cover an individual. This is the sources I am the most confident, because they are required by the law to upheld to the fact checking the journalistic code.
    Source 2- Știri.md is described as as platform ranked Online News Media. I do not find any red flags with it, rather than just reporting on the news. It is referring to a primary source- this one https://youngones.org/jury/-judge/jane-skripnik
    Source 6-"Povestea unei tinere din Moldova. - Unica.md it is actually a printed magazine. But they re-post news online too. It is the fist female magazine in the country, with over 100.000 readers. I am confident in this sources, as they are required by law to disclose promotional articles.
    Source 7 Zugo.md is describe as an Independent Broadcasting & media production company focused on youth news. It is ranked 2# most visited news platforms for youth after diez.md.
    Source 10, is Telegraph Moldova - Press Agency, having local presence with collaboration from The Telegraph UK. It is a secondary press agency's article, which is based on several other courses, including source 1.
    I kept source 9, because it might be helpful for readers. It is an interview piece, by the subject, in an industry respected outlet, DIVA, with established editorial policies and fact checking.
    I removed IMDB from the old draft. The original old draft version contacted IMDB page as a reference and practically nothing else. IMDb is by no means considered a reliable source for Wikipedia. Plus, the page is not edited, has no biography, and has no picture, which means it is not claimed by the subject in the first place.

    Full old discussion I had Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Women in Red#Question about draft Moondust342 (talk) 07:32, 6 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

    Moondust342 A couple of questions: reading through the comments in "Question about draft" section your refer to, it appears several seasoned editors and hard-core inclusionists are mentoring you away from this topic. Why are you persisting? What class is this for, and is a published article part of your grade? Educators are strongly advised not to use the need for a published article for grades. Most especially BLPs. Awaiting your response. Best, --WomenArtistUpdates (talk) 01:35, 7 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Hi @WomenArtistUpdates! My apologies, I did not include our recent discussion with the editors. Basically, I took on to edit draft that fit the topic I needed. It was denied 5 or so times over a year ago and abandoned by some blocked user. I replaced information from it, and 99% of the sources. Old denial were confusing many editors and me including. Wikipedia:Requests for undeletion#Draft: Jane Skripnik
    I do not have many subjects I found for my class, but I will need to show that I have submitted some decent Wikipedia drafts related to my topic. We actually had some kind of coordinator representing Wikipedia, from education Wikipedia helping students last year, but I could not find that person. Students do not usually save some random contacts from classes. Moondust342 (talk) 04:03, 7 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    @Moondust342 Have you changed your editor name? If you were part of a course last year you should have put a template on your user page to say so, and there should be links to your user page from pages about the course. PamD 07:43, 7 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    I wasn't in that class. Some friend of a friend was. I think it was Ian or something. Students do not care much about their Wikipedia account for class after it is over. But that is how I know there is some kind of education team on wikipedia. Moondust342 (talk) 17:44, 7 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    • For me, Draft:Jane Skripnik just doesn't look notable. Johnbod (talk) 17:51, 7 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
      I think "activists" in general is a tricky category. Someone who builds 20 libraries in a small country and runs a branch of an international youth organization can be notable within a small region of the world. There are local secondary sources that provide coverage — the strongest being the government press agency, which is actually what led me to the subject in the first place.
      I wouldn’t feel confident creating a Wikipedia page on the Romanian Wikipedia, though, because my language skills aren’t that strong. At first, I considered https://ro.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pagina_principal%C4%83, but I cannot write something from the scratch in Romanian language. Moondust342 (talk) 18:53, 7 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
      Pinging @Brianda (Wiki Ed): since Moondust342 above and here states this is part of class and it appears they need to choose a different topic. Moondust342 please provide the details about the class so Brianda can help you. S0091 (talk) 19:08, 7 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
      Thank you @S0091, appreciate your help! Hi Brianda. I am from Claremont McKenna College, class : Women in Third World. From my friends, I know that Wikipedia has some kind of editors helping students, students at my college received help in the past. I apologize for any inconvenience, but it makes it quite difficult for me to find a subject. It’s not like I can just Google, “women who are notable in a specific third-world countries and don’t have a Wikipedia page.” I saw governmental press agency sources and went after it. Moondust342 (talk) 19:22, 7 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
      @Moondust342 Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/Redlist index is a list of lists of women who don't have English wikipedia pages, categorised by occupation, country, etc - it might give you some ideas (there is no guarantee that any of them are really WP:NOTABLE, you need to consider each case, but someone somewhere has thought them worth adding to WikiData and in most cases there is a column showing how many other Wikipedias include an article on her, which can help). PamD 20:13, 7 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
      @PamD, Thank you, I saw it. That is how I discovered this project in the first place, as I was looking for women for the project. I did not know it exists. This list is very helpful to many editors. I've made some small contributions to some drafts then and there, discussed by editors here. I am planning to contribute a lot to women who lived 100+ years ago when I have time, because I love history, and also major in history. Moondust342 (talk) 21:07, 7 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    • Original poster on this thread has now been blocked as a sockpuppet. TSventon (talk) 15:28, 15 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

    Get Annie Hadley into main space?

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    "H" is for Annie Hadley. My article was moved to draft - can anyone help me get Annie Hadley published?

    Annie Hadley was a chief cutter on many oscar-winning films. Her work was recognised within the film industry as outstanding, and her creations will be recognised by cinema fans from the 1980s to 2010s. However, as a craftswoman in the male-dominated world of filmmaking, Annie has not been featured in books on the subject or major features. I have located several interviews and features in broadsheet papers, plus mentions in trade press and credits in films and books.

    Any ideas on establishing notability - does the article need to be written with some more emphasis? Please see a similar role held by a man with no apparent issues: Terry English

    Thank you all FilmCostumes (talk) 11:39, 7 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

    Sorry here's the link to AH Draft:Annie Hadley FilmCostumes (talk) 11:40, 7 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    FilmCostumes the reason the article was moved to draft was that the article apparently didn't have enough sources to establish notability, so you need to work on the sources first, rather than the wording of the article. As you probably know, you need to find significant coverage in multiple published secondary sources that are reliable, intellectually independent of each other, and independent of the subject (WP:BASIC). Could you highlight WP:THREE or four sources which would contribute to notability? TSventon (talk) 12:12, 7 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Hi, thanks for the help. As I tried to explain above, the nature of Hadley's work mean that multiple smaller mentions need to be complied to demonstrate the longevity and notability of her career - viz. WP:BASIC If the depth of coverage in any given source is not substantial, then multiple independent sources may be combined to demonstrate notability. However, 4 key sources to highlight might be:
    1. "The Costumier who is dyeing for a change in career". The Stage. 5 June 1986. p. 26. This is a major profile of Hadley from the trade newspaper The Stage. Includes most biographical info used in the Wiki article.
    2. Daspin, Eileen (1996-12-15). "Cry Only for What Peron Really Wore". The New York Times. This includes interview comments with Hadley, but also review/commentary on costume for the film.
    3. "The Emperor's New Clothes". The Kerryman. 27 May 1988. p. 26. This article accounts Hadley's work on The Last Emperor film when it won Best Costume Oscar.
    4. "Emperor's Clothes Bring Film Glory". Evening Argus. 12 April 1988. p. 3. As above - another feature on Hadley & The Last Emperor
    FilmCostumes (talk) 12:32, 7 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Those sources aren't available online (or not available without entering an email for the NYT), could you add how much coverage of Hadley and her work they have? The Kerryman and the Evening Argus are local papers writing about local people, so they are not as useful as national media. TSventon (talk) 14:35, 7 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Yes, agreed - national media would be brilliant but as we know, women's creative works are harder to source! I've managed to find quite a few local newspapers from different areas of England & NI to establish spread of reporting. Also film & fashion publications and broadsheets (Sources 1 & 2 above).
    Sources 3 & 4 above are based on the Oscars results so they describe the processes of making costumes, interviews with Hadley's employees, brief summaries of her career, and images of the workroom. They focus entirely on the making of the costumes. These sources are available through British Newspapers Online - though paywalled. FilmCostumes (talk) 07:45, 8 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    It's really frustrating to see so many page like this one with next-to-no sourcing - James Haldane O'Hare! FilmCostumes (talk) 07:49, 8 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    "James Haldane O'Hare" was created in 2009, when standards were probably lower. A version of New Pages Patrol was started in 2011, for example. TSventon (talk) 13:17, 8 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Would you be happy to review the article again, now i've made edits and provided info on sources? thank you :-) FilmCostumes (talk) 21:10, 14 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

    Simple EN-WP

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    Does anyone here have experience with it? Besides writing in simpler language, are there policy differences between it and EN-WP? Might there be some articles within the scope of WiR at EN-WP Articles for Creation, that are stuck there but would be okay for Simple EN-WP? -- Rosiestep (talk) 23:05, 7 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

    I've only had one major interaction with Simple Wikipedia and it was...not great. It was back during this discussion and this Afd (RfD over there). Apparently it's commonplace over there to delegitimize non-English sources as contributing to notability and also the idea of having to look for sources at all? That was the impression I got, at least. SilverserenC 23:31, 7 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Simple:Wikipedia:Notability (people) looks similar to Wikipedia:Notability (people). Simple en seems to be a much smaller project, with 75,000 bios rather than 2 million, so adding bios that are not notable on en Wikipedia would not necessarily help their project.
    Asilvering seemed knowledgeable when Simple EN-WP was discussed a few weeks ago. TSventon (talk) 14:35, 8 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Rosiestep I spent some time working on Simple English Wikipedia in the Summer of 2023. The criteria for notability are the same as English Wikipedia. The oversight is not quite as robust as on English Wikipedia, but the effect would be to "sneak" pages onto Simple English Wikipedia. BTW - it is hard to write for Simple English Wikipedia! You have to use a different composing part of your brain. I liked working over there, but it was a learning curve to write for that audience. --WomenArtistUpdates (talk) 14:38, 8 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    To add to what others have said, I wouldn't recommend doing this, but I really would not recommend doing this for BLPs in particular. Fewer active patrollers means dodgy changes are more likely to stick, and the smaller editor base will tend to make it less likely that anyone will ever update an article if you don't as the original drafter. -- asilvering (talk) 18:41, 8 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    I'm a bit late, but there are no real differences in notability requirements between the two projects. Also, as an avid simplewiki editor, we could use some extra editors. It's shocking how many obvious topics are either two-sentence stubs or missing entirely. Also, DYK at simplewiki is much less restrictive than at enwiki, because simplewiki doesn't have a newness requirement or a QPQ requirement, making it much easier to nominate a hook. QuicoleJR (talk) 18:41, 24 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Also, this page provides a basic guide to all of the major differences between the two wikis. QuicoleJR (talk) 18:59, 24 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

    The European Destubathon

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    Somebody should count how many women bios are being improved. The output in the first week has been amazing. Could even be a record of most existing women bios improved, not sure. ♦ Dr. Blofeld 07:25, 8 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

    I've been adding the ones with pictures to the WiR pinterest board for April. It's a lot! Penny Richards (talk) 14:11, 8 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Rather than going through them all manually, once the contest is over it should be possible to see how many were related to women on the basis of the categories in the articles or perhaps the wikiprojects on the talk pages. Does anyone know how to obtain results along these lines?--Ipigott (talk) 12:29, 9 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    It looks like 331 women's bios destubbed so far, out of 1,002 articles listed. That shows about a third of the articles listed are women's bios and, if the current productivity is maintained, a thousand women's bios could be destubbed in the course of the competition. TSventon (talk) 17:10, 9 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    A bunch of those women bio destubs are mine. I won't have the same productivity for the rest of the month, I don't think. I have a few left to expand from Ladies in the lab III, but have done all the ones in the other sources I had (Dictionary of Women in Science, vols I and II, and International Women in Science: a biographical dictionary to 1950). So now I am reduced to Googling for sources for bios I find through stub categories, which is a lot slower. Very happy to be pointed at any good resources if anyone has a bunch of stubs they'd like expanded with a source I can get hold of! DrThneed (talk) 00:08, 10 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    @DrThneed:, if you want another encyclopedia, you could try the Biographical Dictionary of Swedish Women. Is there an easy way to find stubs related to an encyclopedia? TSventon (talk) 23:18, 16 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    That's a good question @TSventon! I was really lucky that @Rosiestep had made this redlist for one half of the Biographical Dictionary of Women in Science that isn't Wikidata generated, ie it includes all the blue links as well as the red. It is so useful, and made me wish we had more lists that include the created articles as well as the red ones. So I was able to click all of those to find the stubs (there's a few left still stubs as I have focused on certain countries, and also cos some entries just aren't long enough to support >1500b of article). I took photos of the contents for the other volume and turned it into an open refine project to find some stubs from the other volume. I don't have it completely matched to Wikidata yet (in order to find those with articles, and then in order to find the length of those articles), but at some point I'll try to finish it and turn that into a list like Rosie's that we can all see.
    Otherwise I've made my worklists by getting hold of a decent source (eg Norton/Grove women composers) and working through the stub category for those articles in a certain country. It's a bit tedious! And then Petscan is good for finding articles that are shorter than a certain size but not tagged as stubs.
    Thanks for the tip for the Swedish women's biographical dictionary - I'm on Romania at the moment, and will turn my attention to Sweden when I can! DrThneed (talk) 00:04, 17 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    @DrThneed:, I tried going to Wikidata and getting a list of items linked to the BDSW item and then copying the list back into en Wikipedia, so I suppose that is similar to Rosie's list. There are 2,000 articles in the encyclopedia, so the list is quite long. TSventon (talk) 00:37, 17 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    @Dr. Blofeld: up to now (according to my list as of 11:59 today) 501 women's bios have been destubbed. TSventon (talk) 12:20, 13 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    That's awesome TSventon, appreciate you counting! 501 articles in 13 days has got to be a record for women article improvements. Sorry Ipigott and co that they're not new articles!♦ Dr. Blofeld 12:50, 13 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    But some of them are practically new, even if they aren't turning up as new in stats; some of those destubbed biographical articles were formerly one-sentence microstubs. Penny Richards (talk) 14:27, 15 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Agreed! its annoying to look up a French scientist and to find that the article says she was a scientist and she was French! Victuallers (talk) 15:28, 15 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    @Dr. Blofeld: according to my list as of 23:59 yesterday, 859 women's bios have been destubbed so far (with a week to go). TSventon (talk) 00:09, 24 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    That's amazing TSventon, appreciate it. Penny Richards and Victuallers True, though many such "articles" are often mere placeholders to identify what articles are missing and just have tags saying they need to be transwikied. My point was that these full expansions of micro stubs won't register as new articles on your system, which is a shame.♦ Dr. Blofeld 04:21, 24 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Thank you all, 1,222 women's bios have been destubbed and I have made a list here

    Should we still be on Twitter

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    WMF has made the step to leave the harassment and followers behind and start on Bluesky. I don't know if the footer is still up-to-date and whether WiR is still active on Twitter, but I would argue that we should not be active on a platform strongly associated with a party that is trying to take voting rights away from 70 million US women. —Femke 🐦 (talk) 17:09, 11 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

    Seconded. If we haven't done this, we should. Gamaliel (talk) 19:28, 12 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    I third this motion. Erick (talk) 19:37, 12 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Fourthed, though looks like Twitter is already inactive while the Instagram continues to post. CherryPie94 🍒🥧 (talk) 22:30, 12 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    I believe that WiR stopped posting on TW after it changed its name. Victuallers might have more information. --Rosiestep (talk) 04:57, 13 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    After it changed its nature (and name). I was the main tweeter and I couldn't hold my nose to go there. No one has tweeted there but strangly the number of followers increase. Its a bad place and looking at the news its getting worse. Take pride! We are not tweeting there. Victuallers (talk) 08:26, 13 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Fantastic :). I've removed the links to the Twitter account from the WikiProject page. In the spirit of #TwitterTakedown, we may want to post one last time pointing people to social media we're still active. We've not yet started on Mastodon or Bluesky? —Femke 🐦 (talk) 08:35, 13 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    The account was there because it shows that we could .... but we choose not to be seen there. Changing the account description to "RIP Twitter - find us at Bluesky, Instagram and www.womeninred.org" ... maybe Victuallers (talk) 08:40, 13 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Is WIR on bluesky? I found https://bsky.app/profile/WikiWomenInRed.bsky.social but it doesn't seem to be active. Gamaliel (talk) 18:25, 14 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    I post about all my new WiR articles on Mastodon, and I try to boost other articles about women when someone mentions them there. (The #Wikipedia hashtag catches most of them.) Penny Richards (talk) 19:12, 14 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

    Margarethe Lyman Dwight

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    I stumbled on this woman's history and it's quite interesting. Could someone start an entry on her? Here's a writeup on her. Thanks!!! FloridaArmy (talk) 12:00, 12 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

    If someone picks it up now, great; I'm waiting for my newspapers.com access to be restored (eight days and counting, gaaaaah), so I'm holding off starting new articles until then. (I'm only destubbing, which is less frustrating right now.) If it's still waiting when that happy day arrives, I'll have a look. Penny Richards (talk) 13:08, 12 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    I've added her to wikidata Margarethe Lyman Dwight (Q133865810) because her father's name is Gamaliel and I'm a fan of people named Gamaliel. Gamaliel (talk) 18:25, 13 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Ha! I sometimes do "Penny Club" edits when I notice an article about someone named Penny needs tidying. Penny Richards (talk) 19:08, 14 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

    I started an article for Margarethe Lyman Dwight today. Penny Richards (talk) 17:09, 16 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

    Requesting help with the article for Marcy Rheintgen

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    Hi all

    Please could I have some help with an article I just published. I think its likely that the article may be vandalised and nominated for deletion etc given the political climate in the US, especially in Florida. Marcy Rheintgen was the first person to be arrested and jailed under an anti-trans law for washing her hands in a women's bathroom in the Florida State Capitol building.

    Many thanks

    John Cummings (talk) 16:17, 13 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

    I am not sure if its notable enough, as most of the sources link to WP:ONEEVENT Flyingphoenixchips (talk) 18:24, 13 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    nvm I am stupid Flyingphoenixchips (talk) 18:26, 13 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Hi Flyingphoenixchips, I'm sure you're not :) I've moved it to being about the arrest to avoid rules about BLP for now, but it still falls under Women in Red I think. I'd very much appreciate any help anyone would like to give to it. John Cummings (talk) 18:32, 13 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

    Draft: Mary Rawlinson

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    Draft:Mary Rawlinson

    Would anyone be willing to assist with this draft? It's my first new article so looking for some assistance :) KingLeonid1 (talk) 21:22, 15 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

    Book reviews are what you need. Since I don't think the article will be accepted at AfC as it is now. First off, you need to go through the Bibliography section and make sure all the things listed there are actually published books by her. Remove any ones that are just papers. See my article on Nancy Stepan for a good way to format that. It's basically a Cite book template with the Author-mask parameter on. You can also see from how I've organized the references there in the Bibliography section on one method to keep a bunch of book review sources tidy, though you don't have to do it that way if you prefer not to. Then you need to just Google search Rawlinson's name alongside each of her books and look for academic reviews of them (and news reviews, if any happen to exist). I searched her name along with The Betrayal of Substance and found this and this on the first page of results. SilverserenC 22:58, 15 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Thank you! KingLeonid1 (talk) 15:50, 16 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Just a reminder @KingLeonid1 that the further reading at the bottom can't be bare links - it needs to be formatted like the bibliography too, it's something really easy to overlook Lajmmoore (talk) 07:28, 17 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

    Monthly newsletter template

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    I wanted to bring up the white background of the newsletter template not working with dark mode on Wikipedia. What can be done about that? Thanks. I just went and removed the white background for another template and it works fine without it being set like that. —DIYeditor (talk) 05:08, 17 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

    Hi DIYeditor. Thanks for noticing the problem and fixing it! --Rosiestep (talk) 05:30, 17 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Before I go poking around I wanted to make sure it is ok with everyone that I remove the forced white background. Does anyone know the location of that template offhand? —DIYeditor (talk) 22:59, 20 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Hi DIYeditor. Can you provide a link to an example of the "newsletter" you refer to? Thanks. --WomenArtistUpdates (talk) 16:54, 21 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    It's all over your talk page. —DIYeditor (talk) 00:02, 23 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    DIYeditor, I think WomenArtistUpdates means can you provide a link to "another template" that you removed the white background from?
    I haven't tried producing the WiR news letter, but the instructions are at Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/Ideas#Basic overview of tasks using March 2024 as a guide. TSventon (talk) 00:35, 23 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

    @TSventon: I don't see the newsletter mentioned specifically there. It's a about real world meetups and events as far as I can tell. Maybe these end up in the newsletter.

    Basically this is being put on every WIR member's talk pages every month, and it is presumably being subst: from a template somewhere. I just need to find that template:

    == Women in Red January 2024 ==
    {| style="border: 5px solid #ABCDEF ; background-color: #FFFFFF;"
    ...

    It may be as simple as removing background-color: #FFFFFF; from the template. This is as far as I understand a basic part of implementing "dark mode" on Wikipedia. If it's a bot doing it from off Wikipedia, the bot needs to stop putting that white background. It's a significant accessibility issue. —DIYeditor (talk) 05:15, 23 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

    Ok I see that the newsletter is called "Outreach". It is genereated by the Wikipedia MassMessage facility. What you linked does relate to that. I'm not clear if there is a template or if the newsletter is simply being copied by hand on e.g. Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/Outreach/2024#March 2024 —DIYeditor (talk) 05:36, 23 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

    I've removed the background from the May 2025 version. —DIYeditor (talk) 05:42, 23 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

    May looks great. Thanks, all! Much easier on my eyes. —DIYeditor (talk) 13:14, 29 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

    Help illustrate climate change information on Wikipedia and win a signed copy of The Climate Book by Greta Thunberg

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    Dear all

    I’m very happy to let you know we are running a competition at Wikiproject Climate Change to encourage people to help improve visual information about climate change including the role individual people play in it. The competition is open until the 17th of May for all language versions of Wikipedia. The top three point scorers will each win a signed copy of The Climate Book by Greta Thunberg.

    Please let me know if you have any questions

    Thanks :)

    John Cummings (talk) 17:05, 17 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

    Edeline Lee

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    The Edeline Lee biography needs refs for the awards, etc. If someone who has access to UK sources could help with this, I'd be appreciative. -- Rosiestep (talk) 19:56, 17 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

    I've added a couple. It's probably worth looking through Drapers, which is a trade mag. For example: https://www.drapersonline.com/people/my-fashion-life/designer-edeline-lee-how-britney-spears-gave-me-my-first-break
    EEHalli (talk) 15:58, 21 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

    DYK potential: Hazel Vincent Wallace

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    Hello! I plucked 'Hazel Beatrice Wallace' from the redlist for this month's A to Z. I've created a page under her more commonly used name of Hazel Vincent Wallace. Given the length of it, and the number of sources, I'd like to nominate it for a DYK in the next few days. Wallace is said to be the first woman to have a new theatre built in Britain.

    I can sort out a redirect from her birth name, and start linking to it from quite a number of pages. And dig in the newpaper archives for more details.

    The one thing I've never mastered is connecting the wikidata entry, which in this case isn't helped by her preferred name. Could someone help me connect https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q130236536 with the biog?

    I don't want it failing a DYK nomination because I'm rubbish at a bit of admin!

    EEHalli (talk) 18:42, 18 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

    EEHalli, I have added a Wikipedia link to the Wikidata item and tidied up the English language description in Wikidata. There is a short Youtube instruction video by DrThneed here. I don't think DYK is interested in the Wikidata item, but if you make the link yourself it stops a bot creating a duplicate item. You could nominate the article now, but you have seven days. Ideally suggest a couple of different hooks as DYK admins are wary of claims of firstness. TSventon (talk) 20:23, 18 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Thanks!
    EEHalli (talk) 21:14, 18 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    The DYK nomination is now up here: Template:Did you know nominations/Hazel Vincent Wallace
    Thank you to all the editors who have made tweaks to it over the last few days. I honestly didn't expect it to be such a rich article when I started! EEHalli (talk) 20:13, 22 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

    Time 100 women

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    Hi all, I just threw together articles on Cordelia Bähr and Julie Burkhart, two women without articles who were listed on Time 100 2025. They, particularly Bähr's article, are somewhat bare bones so any help would be appreciated. I get the impression that Bähr has some more coverage in German, which I cannot read. Cheers, Eddie891 Talk Work 08:57, 19 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

    I've slightly expanded Bahr, from a source which is a portrait of her in her alumni magazine - but my German isn't up to much. Got her approx date of birth, and the fact that she's an alumna. PamD 11:12, 19 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

    Submission Declined - Seeking Advice on Edits

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    The following draft was declined: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Ann_Orel

    Details: This draft's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article. In summary, the draft needs to meet any of the eight academic-specific criteria or cite multiple reliable, secondary sources independent of the subject, which cover the subject in some depth

    Do you think she meets notability requirements? If so, how might we show that on her page? Edenraviv (talk) 12:38, 21 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

    Hi @Edenraviv: the same question was asked in March, you can see the detailed answers here. MerielGJones, you did a lot of work on the article, do you think it is ready to be resubmitted? TSventon (talk) 14:34, 21 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Yes. MerielGJones (talk) 17:59, 21 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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    Hello! While this draft is pending approval, does anyone recommend any changes to increase chance of meeting notability requirements?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Angela_Fan Edenraviv (talk) 15:24, 21 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

    My suggestion would be to trim the minor details to focus on the major accomplishments and major career steps. In the current version you can't see the forest for the weeds. I think she does pass WP:PROF#C1 for heavily cited contributions, but that's a difficult case to make for draft reviewers. —David Eppstein (talk) 18:58, 21 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

    Submission declined—looking for advice on edits to make

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    The following draft was declined: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Karen_Schindler

    Details: This submission does not appear to be written in the formal tone expected of an encyclopedia article. Entries should be written from a neutral point of view, and should refer to a range of independent, reliable, published sources. Please rewrite your submission in a more encyclopedic format. Please make sure to avoid peacock terms that promote the subject.

    Does anyone know which language in particular might be causing the problem? Edenraviv (talk) 15:54, 22 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

    I think it might be the frequency of the text saying "she says" since that is language you typically find in interviews and press releases (ie Puffery). It also means that everything that follows is being read as what she claims to have done, not what secondary sources say she's done.
    I'm also not sure mentoring is worth including since I believe most academics do it as part of their work?
    EEHalli (talk) 20:24, 22 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

    Orphan Article

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    Hello! This article is marked as an orphan (no other articles link to it). https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Margaret_Shandor_Miles

    Any advice on how to resolve this? It also says it needs more specific sections... any advice on what that may look like?

    Thanks! Edenraviv (talk) 16:20, 22 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

    So how I de-orpahn articles @Edenraviv is to click on the existing blue links and add a sentence somewhere in the linked article, that then links back to the original - so here for example if her college has an alumni list you could add her to it, using the references from the original article. Lajmmoore (talk) 18:38, 22 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Edenraviv, my rule of thumb is to never create an orphan (to avoid some other editor placing the orphan-template on the subject's page). How I accomplish this is by creating a redlink in the subject's given name and/or surname article(s) before saving my first edit on the new biography. As for Margaret's biography, I see that the article is no longer an orphan, but ditto to what Lajmmoore noted, for example, adding Margaret here: Miles (surname), List of Boston College people#Notable Boston College alumni, List of University of Pittsburgh alumni, List of University of Missouri–Kansas City people#Notable alumni. --Rosiestep (talk) 14:38, 23 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

    Another semester coming to an end...

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    Alas, many classroom assignments heading this way! WomenArtistUpdates (talk) 16:37, 22 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

    Lilli – Ein Mädchen Aus Der Großstadt

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    The lost German film Lilli – ein Mädchen aus der Großstadt [de], starring Ann Smyrner and featuring the character Bild Lilli, has recently been found and uploaded to YouTube in its entirety. The article about the film is available in German and Welsh, and now also in Spanish. Hopefully, someone will be encouraged to translate the article into English as well.--Peridotito (talk) 08:09, 26 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

    @Peridotito: unfortunately translating the de article into an article suitable for en Wikipedia will not be straightforward, as most of the de article does not have inline citations. The main author has died, so they can't assist. If you could add some citations to the es version, that would be a great help. TSventon (talk) 20:22, 26 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

    Women in Green's May 2025 edit-a-thon

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    Hello WikiProject Women in Red: WikiProject Women in Green is holding a month-long Good Article Editathon event in May 2025!

    Running from May 1 to 31, 2025, WikiProject Women in Green (WiG) is hosting a Good Article (GA) editathon event – Wildcard Edition! Participants are invited to work on nominating and/or reviewing GA submissions related to any and all women and women's works during the event period. Want to improve an article about a women's rights activist? Go for it. An Olympian gold medallist? Absolutely. A famous painting by a woman? Yes! GA resources and one-on-one support will be provided by experienced GA editors, and participants will have the opportunity to receive a special WiG barnstar for their efforts. We hope to see you there!

    Grnrchst (talk) 16:34, 26 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

    Listeriabot

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    Apologies if this is not the place to ask, but any idea why Listeriabot hasn't updated Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/Missing articles by occupation/Writers - UK since October? I've tried manually summoning the bot, which hasn't worked. Starklinson (talk) 05:27, 28 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

    @Starklinson:, unfortunately Listeriabot not updating redlists is a longstanding problem, see a 2021 discussion. @MarioGom: do you have any ideas? TSventon (talk) 13:54, 29 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    I proposed it to the Community Wishlist a couple of times iirc, unsuccessfully. There's really no good solution until someone fixes the bot or rewrites it from scratch. Removing any column referencing places like place of birth of death might help with some queries. It is ok to use them as filters in queries, but not as columns in tables. MarioGom (talk) 19:02, 29 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    It's been going on for a while; I made a template for the problem back in 2022: Template:Listeria fail. The only thing that can be done is to reduce the amount of processing it takes to create the list. Try making the list more specific or limiting the amount of data it pulls by removing columns. Shorter lists generally work just fine. Gamaliel (talk) 19:33, 29 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    I have split out the UK to 1927 and Listeria was able to run. TSventon (talk) 21:04, 29 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    I expect part of the problem is that the size of Wikidata and Wikipedia has increased since 2018, so the bot has to work a lot harder to produce the same reports. TSventon (talk) 01:27, 30 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Last time I checked, it was a design issue in the bot. For each column, it would fetch every full entity into memory. Some entities like countries are huge. A column with many big entities will exhaust memory. MarioGom (talk) 21:41, 30 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Presumably the design of the bot hasn't changed, but wikidata keeps getting bigger, meaning reports that could run 8 years ago are now more likely to fail. TSventon (talk) 05:32, 1 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

    Sub-referencing: User testing

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    Apologies for crossposting

    Hi I'm Johannes from Wikimedia Deutschland's Technical Wishes team. We are making great strides with the new sub-referencing feature and we’d love to invite you to take part in two activities to help us move this work further:

    1. Try it out and share your feedback
      Please try the updated wikitext feature on the beta wiki and let us know what you think, either on our talk page or by booking a call with our UX researcher.
    2. Get a sneak peak and help shape the Visual Editor user designs
      Help us test the new design prototypes by participating in user sessions – sign up here to receive an invite. We're especially hoping to speak with people from underrepresented and diverse groups to get different perspectives. If that's you, please consider signing up! No prior or extensive editing experience is required. User sessions will start May 14th.

    We plan to bring this feature to Wikimedia wikis later this year. We’ll reach out to wikis for piloting in time for deployments. Creators and maintainers of reference-related tools and templates will be contacted beforehand as well.

    Thank you very much for your support and encouragement so far in helping bring this feature to life Johannes Richter (WMDE) (talk) 15:25, 28 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

    Women in Red May 2025

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    Women in Red | May 2025, Vol 11, Issue 5, Nos. 326, 327, 337, 338


    Online events:

    Announcements (events facilitated by others):

    Progress ("moving the needle"):

    • Statistics available via Humaniki tool. Thank you if you contributed one or more of the 1,269 articles during this period!
    • 21 Apr 2025: 20.090% of EN-WP biographies are about women (2,061,363; 414,126 women)
    • 24 Mar 2025: 20.070% (2,057,083 bios; 412,857 women)

    Tip of the month:

    • Those of you who experience harassment while trying to create or improve articles about women
      are welcome to bring your problems to our attention on the Women in Red talk page.

    Other ways to participate:

    --Lajmmoore (talk 09:18, 29 April 2025 (UTC) via MassMessaging[reply]

    Women in Red May 2025

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    Hey just created my first article for this month Mitela Sumi Will appreciate help to expand this article :) Flyingphoenixchips (talk) 16:36, 29 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

    Reminder: Submit Your Local Results for Wiki Loves Ramadan 2025 by 15 May

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    Dear WikiProject Women in Red,

    Thank you for your valuable contributions to Wiki Loves Ramadan 2025 in your communities!

    This is a kind reminder that the deadline to submit your local results is 15 May 2025.

    Please make sure to submit the complete and detailed results of your local contest on the following Meta-Wiki page: m:Wiki Loves Ramadan 2025/Results

    Additionally, feel free to add a brief summary of your local event under the Results section in your country/region’s row on the participants page: m:Wiki Loves Ramadan 2025/Participants

    If you need any assistance during this process, don’t hesitate to reach out.

    Thank you for your continued dedication and support!


    For, Wiki Loves Ramadan International Team 11:51, 2 May 2025 (UTC)

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    I've been doing very little on wikipedia this year, as I've been concentrating on wikidata, adding women from 30 under-represented countries which together constitute 50% of world population. There were 35,500 women from these countries when I started, and now there are 10,000 more! I started working on this when I was vaguely appalled to find that women from this half of the world contituted only 0.83% of wikidata bios with country and gender assigned. I'm proud to announce that this is now 1.01%, so I've hit the 1% target I set myself :)

    This means that I've expanded the following WiR redlinks pages: Afghanistan, Angola, Bangladesh, Burkina Faso, Burundi, Cambodia, Central African Republic, Chad, China, DRC, Ethiopia, India, Laos, Libya, Madagascar, Malawi, Mauritania, Mosambique, Myanmar, Niger, Pakistan, Sierra Leone, Somalia, South Sudan, Sudan, Tajikistan, Tanzania, Turkmenistan, Vietnam, and Yemen. I'd love it if these countries got some special WiR love. (Basically there are three equally sized population blocs here: China, India, and the rest.)

    One of the countries I've worked on is Malawi. So one unexpected & lovely side-effect was learning of User:Victuallers's efforts to improve wikipedia representation of women there. He's looking to engage off-wiki partners in this. A '50-50 campaign' across Africa (setting explicit 50:50 targets for public decision-makers as part of various protocol agreements) initially arose from Malawian grassroots campaigners. The timescale for that has been pushed back, but it's had visible effects. Maybe Malawi can be similarly exemplary when it comes to wikipedia representation!

    This has been a bit of an obsessive slog, but I'm very pleased it's been possible to make a visible difference. Hope others here find it encouraging! Dsp13 (talk) 08:24, 3 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

    Dsp13, are there WP:RS to establish the notability of the women you are adding to Wikidata? If there are not, it won't be possible to write en Wikipedia articles on them. And if the RS are offline or paywalled it will be difficult. If there are resources for writing women's biographies in your target countries, they could be added to Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/Resources. TSventon (talk) 10:42, 3 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Not all will meet en.WP notability standards, but many will. For example, plenty of national MPs and even government ministers weren't already in Wikidata (and aren't yet in en.WP). They usually have newspaper coverage in the country they're in. I'll have a think as to whether there are specific resources I could add. Thanks for the suggestion, Dsp13 (talk) 11:14, 3 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    The redlist quality of the additions to Malawi's redlist vary, these are all WIR candidates although some do not have enough notability to survive on en:wiki (there are 2 other languages!). However some of the finds have the kind of notability you might be surprised to find in a missing woman on Wikipedia. One recent addition for Malawi was Ivy Kamanga a supreme court judge which is pretty notable but she was the only woman on a panel who overturned a presidential election!! They wore bullet proof vests to announce their findings. The judges won an international prize and were lauded in the UK parliament. She's one of the "100 WIR Women" list I'm curating and I'm hoping that WIR will give Malawi an extra push to 50:50 parity on en:wiki, Chichewe:wiki and tum:wiki. In preparation we are making some non:notable headlines as we gather partners to assist. When we started there were less than 100 Malawians on the WIR redlist. Since then that number should have gone down as we have increased the number of articles about Malawian women by 10%.... but actually it has ~quadrupled. Dsp13 has pushed the redlist up to c:350 Malawian women in Red. It's probably going to take a while to get this project ready as there are (ambitious?) plans to gather more external partners in addition to WIR, WMUK and the Scotland Malawi Partnership charity. Any more interest here? Victuallers (talk) 14:43, 3 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    CONGRATULATIONS @Dsp13 this is such a fantastic undertaking! I'd defnitely noticed that some WD lists I was looking at regularly were expanding, this is so cool! Even if they're not EN notable, their presence undoubtedly enhances knowledge on the internet more broadly, and significantly connnects these women into the web of knowledge. @Victuallers I'd be happy to help out later in the year with the Malawi project. Lajmmoore (talk) 15:00, 3 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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