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[edit]GA review timeline
[edit]Just a quick question. You picked up my article for GA review a couple days ago now, but haven't begun reviewing dispite being fairly active on Wikipedia? (Edit: Woah! Over 1000 edits so far.) By all means, there's no rush, and I have no issue waiting—I'm just confused is all. Is there a reason you're waiting? If so, when are you planning to start? I'm gonna try to keep my schedule clear. – Farkle Griffen (talk) 18:49, 30 March 2025 (UTC)
- @Remsemse? – Farkle Griffen (talk) 16:05, 31 March 2025 (UTC)
- Was just tabbing to it, my bad! Remsense ‥ 论 16:05, 31 March 2025 (UTC)
- Seriously, take your time. I'm in no rush. Just wondering what's going on. – Farkle Griffen (talk) 16:10, 31 March 2025 (UTC)
- Was just tabbing to it, my bad! Remsense ‥ 论 16:05, 31 March 2025 (UTC)
- @Remsense, if it's possible, could you give me an idea of when you're wanting to start? I'm free for the next few days... and after next week, I might not be free until May. – Farkle Griffen (talk) 20:52, 9 April 2025 (UTC)
- I'm very sorry for this—was planning on getting the bulk done today. Thanks for letting me know. Remsense ‥ 论 20:55, 9 April 2025 (UTC)
- @Farkle Griffen I am beyond sorry about my disappearance—I had a family emergency and wasn't able to edit. Are you okay with me resuming the bulk of the work now and possibly wrapping up after you're able to address any concerns I bring up? Remsense ‥ 论 00:05, 23 April 2025 (UTC)
- @Remsense I understand, and I hope everything is okay! That's alright with me, but I might not be able to make any large edits until May, if you're okay waiting a bit. – Farkle Griffen (talk) 00:54, 23 April 2025 (UTC)
- @Remsense To be clear, I'm okay with you resuming now. The "if you're okay waiting a bit" was specifically about large edits. Sorry if that was confusing. – Farkle Griffen (talk) 18:31, 25 April 2025 (UTC)
- @Farkle Griffen I am beyond sorry about my disappearance—I had a family emergency and wasn't able to edit. Are you okay with me resuming the bulk of the work now and possibly wrapping up after you're able to address any concerns I bring up? Remsense ‥ 论 00:05, 23 April 2025 (UTC)
- I'm very sorry for this—was planning on getting the bulk done today. Thanks for letting me know. Remsense ‥ 论 20:55, 9 April 2025 (UTC)
- @Remsense, my schedule cleared up a bit early. I'm available whenever you are. – Farkle Griffen (talk) 02:58, 30 April 2025 (UTC)
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Looking forward! - My story today is about an opera singer born OTD in 1870. I have problems to say something as informative about Mirella Freni, as the DYK nom shows. -Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:57, 3 April 2025 (UTC)
The Freni hook was improved while I wrote this ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:19, 3 April 2025 (UTC)
Tout est lumière. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:32, 7 April 2025 (UTC)
Check out my talk: for a great woman's Johannes-Passion (listen!), our music in detail, and three people who recently died and are on the main page (where she isn't). My call for collaboration has the first "no", and the second - for the Easter Oratorio - seems inevitable. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:36, 18 April 2025 (UTC)
My story is about music that Bach and Picander gave the world 300 years (and 19 days) ago, - listen (on the conductor's birthday) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:59, 20 April 2025 (UTC)
I finally managed to upload the pics I meant for Easter, see places. - Also finally, I managed a FAC, Easter Oratorio. I wanted that on the main page for Easter Sunday, but no, twice. You are invited to join a discussion about what "On this day" means, day or date. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:26, 25 April 2025 (UTC)
Reverted Edit In Conversions related
[edit]Hi Man ! Ive made some additions to the para where it said about 'primary' factor of new muslims but not about the conversions which although not an primary factor but has an huge trend in modern world . Ive spoken about it in talk page you can refer it for the sources and claims i have made . Expecting your reply . Thanks ItsTrueNow (talk) 08:14, 9 April 2025 (UTC)
- You appear to have missed the explanation in the edit summary. Please read WP:LEAD for the long version. --𝕁𝕄𝔽 (talk) 10:44, 9 April 2025 (UTC) (talk page watcher)
- Oh sorry i'll correct the summary . Thanks for correcting me ! ItsTrueNow (talk) 14:07, 15 April 2025 (UTC)
- Just now noticed sir . The previous reversion of edit said about lack of much source so I've edited with more reliable, authentic sources so in the edit summary i have mentioned that 'added context with reliable sources etc etc' . Isn't this summary enough sir ? ItsTrueNow (talk) 14:15, 15 April 2025 (UTC)
Mustafa Kemal Atatürk
[edit]Why not a more comprehensive biographical information but a superficial one instead ? Moreover, it used to be like the way I edited it to be. It used to include the titles of field marshal, author, and revolutionary statesman before it's been changed to its current form. All the titles are relevant and serve his persona better. Enigmationn (talk) 16:04, 10 April 2025 (UTC)
- There's simply no need to overload the first sentence to the point of awkwardness. Remsense ‥ 论 21:43, 10 April 2025 (UTC)
- There's no need to keep it incredibly short either then. Besides, get to the page of Che Guevara for example and you'll see the awkwardness. Enigmationn (talk) 07:42, 11 April 2025 (UTC)
Jeffrey Tripp
[edit]Hello Remsense! I’m sorry if I am bothering you, but could you explain why you reverted my edit citing Jeffrey Tripp? He is a biblical scholar with the relevant phd from Loyola and a member of SBL, as I noted in my edit summary. The article I posted is even critical of Richard Bauckham, so I do not think he is an apologist.
Thank you Birjeta01 (talk) 21:42, 10 April 2025 (UTC)
Question on revert on Speed of Sound Wiki
[edit]Hi, I saw you reverted my edits on the Speed of sound Wiki claiming it was generated by a Large language model. I wish to clarify that I did not do that, and a major part of my contributed text was just a revert. That text was written around two decades ago. I nevertheless checked for AI written content on my changes using QuillBot's AI Detector and it reported 0% AI. It would be great if you could tell me why you thought the text was AI generated. Aishik Nath (talk) 23:40, 10 April 2025 (UTC)
Help needed for a template
[edit]Hi, Remsense! I needed your your help at wikt:pa:ਮੌਡਿਊਲ:ਵਰਤੋਂਕਾਰਡੱਬਾ. I'm unable to find the problem as I'm not a programmer and have no experience at all with Lua. saluere, Ɔþʱʏɾɪʊs⚔ 10:00, 11 April 2025 (UTC)
ANI notice
[edit] There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. — MarkH21talk 20:09, 11 April 2025 (UTC)
Question on your undo edit in Talk:Saint Augustine of Hippo
[edit]Why did you attempt to undo 170.55.94.210's topic inTalk:Augustine_of_Hippo#Height? As far as I can see, it served no purpose. Parting ShotTalk to me here. • What I have done on Wikipedia 02:29, 13 April 2025 (UTC)
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PRODs
[edit]Hello, Remsense,
I'm not sure why you are using WP:YOUNGATH as a deletion rationale for subjects who had adult careers playing or coaching in professional sports. YOUNGATH a deletion reason for athletes who primarily played sports in secondary school but not professionally. Liz Read! Talk! 23:09, 15 April 2025 (UTC)
Dear Remsense, Thank you for your interest in this article. You removed two images of an illuminated printed historical bible, (Vetus Testamentum, Brescia 1495) per Article is sufficiently illustrated; we do not need two large images of the same manuscript at the already cluttered top. (diff]) That's right, the top is cluttered indeed, however the remainder of the article is quite barren and can stand some illustration?
- Is it OK if i put the removed images over there, lower on the page?
I thought the photographed bible pages are gorgeous and worthwhile to show here. Thank you, Hansmuller UBL (talk) 12:26, 19 April 2025 (UTC)
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The AfD hasn't been open for an hour yet, why would you close it? Schazjmd (talk) 13:26, 23 April 2025 (UTC)
- I thought the tool would give me a box to type in. If you think the SNOW close is inappropriate that's fine and up to you, but this has kneejerk bad faith written all over it. Remsense ‥ 论 13:28, 23 April 2025 (UTC)
- When I saw it, you just closed as keep with no explanation, so it was unclear what you were doing. You've since amended the closure statement, thanks. Schazjmd (talk) 13:30, 23 April 2025 (UTC)
- I'll be smarter about ensuring it doesn't do that for those onlooking in the future. Remsense ‥ 论 13:31, 23 April 2025 (UTC)
- When I saw it, you just closed as keep with no explanation, so it was unclear what you were doing. You've since amended the closure statement, thanks. Schazjmd (talk) 13:30, 23 April 2025 (UTC)
- Sorry, but that's an out of process AfD close. Amending it isn't enough; it needs to be reopened, because neither speedy keep criteria nor SNOW apply. I'll ask DRV for an admin to undo your close. Jclemens (talk) 03:12, 24 April 2025 (UTC)
- SNOW applies plenty, and if your argument is genuinely that I used a tool that made me do it in two edits rather than one, you shouldn't be managing these processes, sorry. In order to avoid further hypocrisy on my part, I won't be throwing more hours into this pit, I hope everyone else who has to get involved knows how little is at stake for their contributions. Remsense ‥ 论 04:09, 24 April 2025 (UTC)
Deletion review for Sexuality in The Lord of the Rings
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[edit] Hi Remsense! I noticed that you have reverted to restore your preferred version of Edward II of England several times. The impulse to undo an edit you disagree with is understandable, but I wanted to make sure you're aware that the edit warring policy disallows repeated reversions even if they are justifiable.
All editors are expected to discuss content disputes on article talk pages to try to reach consensus. If you are unable to agree at Talk:Edward II of England, please use one of the dispute resolution options to seek input from others. Using this approach instead of reverting can help you avoid getting drawn into an edit war. Warning both sides as I am not entirely sure who is at fault here.. Gommeh (talk/contribs) 16:02, 23 April 2025 (UTC)
- Preventing schoolchildren from damaging the encyclopedia isn't edit-warring, but thanks—if you actually believe your preferred change to be well-supported, you generally don't need to side with schoolchildren damaging the encyclopedia. Remsense ‥ 论 16:03, 23 April 2025 (UTC)
- true lol... but IMO the portrait a few people put there looks more like it belongs, so IDK if that was vandalism per se. This needs to be discussed on the talk page I think, but people were not listening so I requested page protection. Gommeh (talk/contribs) 16:09, 23 April 2025 (UTC)
- It probably doesn't need it, as long as people who would be interested in the discussion wouldn't be boxed out—I just care about shunting these discussions to talk where they belong—obviously I care more about that with you, someone who's working in good faith, rather than letting school IPs waste our time. Remsense ‥ 论 16:10, 23 April 2025 (UTC)
- true lol... but IMO the portrait a few people put there looks more like it belongs, so IDK if that was vandalism per se. This needs to be discussed on the talk page I think, but people were not listening so I requested page protection. Gommeh (talk/contribs) 16:09, 23 April 2025 (UTC)
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why did you reverted my edit at mariam yahia ibrahim ishag
[edit]why? 2600:480A:4A51:9300:E159:CFC5:9C65:79DD (talk) 20:03, 24 April 2025 (UTC)
unexplained editorializing
[edit]Hello, the note under bust of Mark Antony hints that identification has no reliable basis. However if you don't open the note (which few users do), there is no indication in caption that identification is questionable. What do you think? Askelladd (talk) 07:37, 25 April 2025 (UTC)
- To my eye, traditionally identified suffices here—we wouldn't specify if that identification were equally accepted presently. Remsense ‥ 论 07:44, 25 April 2025 (UTC)
- traditionally identified, in my opinion, implies that chance that the bust depicts him is more than 50%, when in fact chance is less than it, because initially identification was based on fact that all busts from the same era and two of them depict Octavian and Lepidus, which was eventually refuted. Askelladd (talk) 08:11, 25 April 2025 (UTC)
Concern regarding Draft:Chinese philology
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Conflict of edits (solved)
[edit]Hi, unfortunately there was a conflict of edits in the article you were editing; could you restore your latest changes without affecting mine? Thank you. JacktheBrown (talk) 16:54, 25 April 2025 (UTC)
I solved it, don't worry; Done. JacktheBrown (talk) 17:08, 25 April 2025 (UTC)
My user page
[edit]Hi, on my user page I don't know how to make the userbox scrollable (on mobile devices, only the left half is visible), could you please help me? Thank you in advance. JacktheBrown (talk) 19:09, 25 April 2025 (UTC)
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[edit]Maybe check the formatting and fix it before just undoing my edit. I didn’t mean to delete it all just the pronunciation part under "Example" section. ArianTe (talk) 19:24, 28 April 2025 (UTC)
- Not sure how I'm supposed to know that, but thank you for clarifying. Remsense ‥ 论 19:25, 28 April 2025 (UTC)
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Stonehenge
[edit]I think the picture looks better and shows off the landmark in full, instead of a close up. Sorry for the issues caused, and sorry you had to revert my edit.
Kind regards. Derryanne (talk) 20:48, 28 April 2025 (UTC)
Hey Rem
[edit]The mistake you make for hell was the reverts CoolBaljeetFan12 (talk) 00:04, 29 April 2025 (UTC)
WikiCup 2025 May newsletter
[edit]The second round of the 2025 WikiCup ended on 28 April at 23:59 UTC. To reiterate what we said in the previous newsletter, we are no longer disqualifying contestants based on how many points (now known as round points) they received. Instead, the contestants with the highest round-point totals now receive tournament points at the end of each round. These tournament points are carried over between rounds, and can only be earned if a competitor is among the top 16 round-point scorers at the end of each round. This table shows all competitors who have received tournament points so far. Everyone who competed in round 2 will advance to round 3 unless they have withdrawn or been banned.
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Constantine XI Palaiologos Religion edit
[edit]Hi Remsense, I’m sorry if my edit to Constantine XI’s page seemed disruptive—I didn’t mean to cause issues. I changed the religion to “Eastern Orthodox” because I found no reliable sources supporting “Eastern Catholic, previously Eastern Orthodox.” George Sphrantzes notes Constantine’s last eucharist as “immaculate and divine” (Sphrantzes, G. (1980). The Fall of the Byzantine Empire: A Chronicle by George Sphrantzes 1401-1477, trans. Marios Philippides, p. 141), aligning with Orthodox practice, which resonates with my interest in Orthodox traditions. The 1450 synod under Constantine also elected an anti-unionist Patriarch (Sanidopoulos, J. (2020). “Was Emperor Constantine Palaiologos a Uniate?” Mystagogy Resource Center). I’d like to understand the consensus for “Eastern Catholic.” Can you share the sources behind it? I’m happy to discuss on the article’s Talk page to find a solution. Thanks! Charalambus (talk) 10:42, 29 April 2025 (UTC)
Alexander Hamilton - The (Almost) Hamilton-Monroe Duel
[edit]Hello, Remsense. I'm writing this here because I wish to try to get my point across without doing so through an edit war, as that would only harm the article. You keep reverting my attempt to add constructive information to the Reynolds Affair section, which is information that explains how Hamilton and future President James Monroe almost got in a duel over the affair. I do not understand what you mean by: "This seems like minutiae for a generalist biography... encyclopedia articles don't generally need to traffick in the recounting of primary sources". All I see is you reverting my hard work I spent an hour or so trying to word correctly, and refusing to hear me out. I'd like you to explain that in a way that may be easier for me to understand, because I don't want to get into an edit war, but you don't seem to be listening. The information is not only a cool fact for anyone reading the article, but can help provide new information to a reader who otherwise possibly wouldn't have found the information. Please explain. Thanks. Ali Beary (talk2me!) (stalk me?!) 17:19, 29 April 2025 (UTC)
- "It is cool" and "I worked hard on it" are unfortunately not good arguments for the dueness of material in an article. Space isn't free, and we have the notion of due weight and proportionality to which articles should generally adhere. I have been and continue to hear your arguments (though they should be going on Talk:Alexander Hamilton where others interested in the article can see them) but when distiling our sources into an article, inclusion isn't our default.
- The most concrete fact here is the article is already 14,000 words long: Wikipedia:Article size would strongly suggest that if we're cohering the article it should generally be slimming down, not tacking on. The figures given on that page are rules of thumb, but serve as an anchor by which we can begin discussing what is right for each given article, and those who think their case is an exception usually don't have compelling reasons to so think. Remsense ‥ 论 17:24, 29 April 2025 (UTC)
- Then can I at least put right before
Hamilton then published a 100-page booklet...
: "This led to Hamilton and Monroe having an argument that almost culminated in a duel, before the conflict was averted by Aaron Burr."? I still want to add information that the two almost dueled, even if I can't go into too much detail. Ali Beary (talk!) 14:50, 30 April 2025 (UTC)
- Then can I at least put right before
Venus edit war
[edit]Hello there Remsense, yes its me. I came here to apologize for what i did to the Venus page and how rude I was. I was under the impression that the famous Mariner 10 photo of Venus was true color, it did not help that the file name said it was true color. IF i had known it was a faulty image, I would've stopped. Sincerely, Informing and Uniting. Informing And Uniting (talk) 22:47, 29 April 2025 (UTC)
- Hey, I really appreciate it. I know frustration among editors here generally stems from them wanting to help in improving a resource meant for something like the shared heritage of humanity. I know as well as anyone that managing that frustration is non-trivial, and it may be a lifelong process, important as it is. I recognize you're already learning from the experience, so all that matters is you feel able to contribute going forward. Cheers, and happy editing. Remsense ‥ 论 22:53, 29 April 2025 (UTC)
- Thank you for accepting my apology. Feel free to revert any of my other edits if you feel the need to. Informing And Uniting (talk) 23:01, 29 April 2025 (UTC)
I see you have reverted my expansion of the hatnote with the edit summary per the template doc, this is redundant both because 1) Joule is linked prominently in the lead already, and 2) can be found in the disambig.
However neither of these reasons 1) and 2) appear at Template:About/doc. Am I missing something? Or, are you referring to some other page when you say per the template doc? Andrewa (talk) 00:44, 30 April 2025 (UTC)
- Oh, sorry, I was thinking as well of what WP:HAT says. My bad. Remsense ‥ 论 00:45, 30 April 2025 (UTC)
- That's quite a long guideline... but the term redundant does not appear in it that I can see. Are you applying any clause in particular? Andrewa (talk) 00:50, 30 April 2025 (UTC)
- If a disambiguation page exists for a given term, then linking to it should be enough. For example, if the article is X then its hatnote will link to X (disambiguation); it should not have entries for other topics known as X, like X (Grafton novel) or X (charge), because they are already listed in the disambiguation page. However, such an article may be linked if it could be expected by a significant number of readers to be at the title in question: for instance, Turkey is about the country, but many readers expect to find the article about the bird at that title; therefore, the hatnote there correctly reads
- I suppose the question hangs on whether people are looking for Joule or the joule. It's hard to argue that anyone with an SI unit named after them wouldn't be receiving considerable traffic, though...just to be safe, I'll go ahead and put it back. Remsense ‥ 论 00:52, 30 April 2025 (UTC)
- That's quite a long guideline... but the term redundant does not appear in it that I can see. Are you applying any clause in particular? Andrewa (talk) 00:50, 30 April 2025 (UTC)
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