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Latest news from Centralized discussions: And don't bite those newbies!

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Don't bite the newbies!
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From the 2025 Centralized discussion archive (WP:CENT):

An RFC closed in January ended with the rewrite of portions of WP:BITE. BITE is a behavioural guideline and often cited by editors.

Another RFC closed with the consensus to rewrite "Self-published sources", without consensus for any specific wording. The section is part of the WP:Verifiability policy.

In January, an RFC allowed those with page mover permission to enable two factor authentication on their accounts. Two-factor authentication on Wikimedia is currently experimental and optional – only users on specific trusted groups are currently allowed to use 2FA, all other users need to ask the Stewards.

A proposal to revive Informal mediation resulted instead in a recommendation to implement a process in Dispute resolution noticeboard for "mid-level informal mediation".

An RFC closed in January with consensus to discount "obvious use of generative LLMs" in discussions. A later RFC on AI closed with the consensus that most images "wholly generated by AI" should not be used on enwiki. In his close, S Marshall also recommended editors draft a guideline for broader community approval.

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Thanks, these are useful and appreciated. Regards,--Goldsztajn (talk) 22:34, 1 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I agree with Goldsztajn that this is extremely helpful – I often forget about these big discussions and miss the close. I'm concerned, though, that only users on specific trusted groups are currently allowed to use OAUTH is not accurate – any user is allowed to request 2FA access at m:Steward requests/Global permissions#Requests for 2 Factor Auth tester permissions, and OAuth is something completely different from 2FA. I'm not sure if I'm supposed to edit this directly so pinging @User:JPxG instead. Toadspike [Talk] 13:35, 2 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I thought about correcting that in the copy but didn't ... I'm one of those 2FA users myself. Help:Two-factor authentication gives all the necessary info. ☆ Bri (talk) 18:44, 2 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for the correction, I have edited the article to be more accurate. I wanted to highlight the part where 2FA is a privilege not a default, since Wikimedia spaces differ quite a bit from a lot of the other websites (and many editors forget about it because they don't enable/enabled a long time back) Soni (talk) 03:44, 3 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Just echoing the thanks! I wasn't planning on biting newbies but I definitely won't now that my favorite dog on all of Wikipedia said so Crunchydillpickle🥒 (talk) 18:36, 2 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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