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Gryllida (talk, e-mail) 03:41, 9 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The Signpost: 9 April 2025

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double boom for WikiTextExpander!!

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holy heck I swear I had a dream about a script like this once. it's great! A feature request and an ask, though:

  1. Could you make it so WTE expands the entire editor if no text is selected and the shortcut is clicked twice "soon" (probably by setting a timer to revert a boolean "doublePress" to false in 4.8 seconds)?
  2. You may want to display a warning when both Alt and Shift are checked as this is the basis for WP:Access keys.

Aaron Liu (talk) 22:43, 11 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Aaron Liu Hmmm. Gotta think about that for a second. I also have to scrape basically everything that transcludes {{shortcut}}. Polygnotus (talk) 16:51, 12 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I did namedrop you over at User talk:Polygnotus/Scripts/WikiTextExpander.js. ;-) Polygnotus (talk) 17:18, 12 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Ah, I didn't see that lol. Thanks! Aaron Liu (talk) 17:08, 14 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
User:Polygnotus/shortcuts is a first step. Polygnotus (talk) 16:46, 14 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Random acronym generator when? Polygnotus (talk) 21:39, 22 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Feedback request: All RFCs request for comment

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Closing with clarity

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Thanks for closing the discussion with the clarity that you're censoring the discussion at Wikipedia talk:What Wikipedia is not#Wikipedia is censored. You know many people throughout history probably didn't think of their actions as censorship but it's good when people are aware and make it clear.

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My last comment there was:

Also not every thread does have to make a concrete ideal proposal right away. I'm noticing this page may be outdated and false and am pointing it out along with explaining why. I think the situation would be or become somewhat a policy contradiction (e.g. If policy instruments adopted later contradict those adopted earlier, policy inconsistency occurs, and ineffectiveness follows.). If this policy here is important and applied, then noneditorial indiscriminate removal of AI images is not aligned with it as it is currently. I thought maybe people would actually protect, value, cherish and honor the policy and so would seek to either

  • make practices be compliant with it and/or
  • adjust it so that practices are aligned with it
  • or sth in between that I haven't thought of.

The point is that – while the section header could still be accurate as the text beneath describes how things aren't being censored – there are still text parts that (regardless whether it's classed as censorship or not) are not up-to-date anymore if what users claim is the case is true as far as I can see albeit e.g. the "usually" in should usually focus is somewhat ambiguous (but should not be this ambiguous with that bold section title).

And there was no outcome of the discussion other than those editors who watch the policy page closely and are quick to reply seem to disagree it's censorship (albeit whether or not it's censorship is tangential since the text is still inaccurate) and don't know of anything that could or should be done. Prototyperspective (talk) 12:00, 16 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Prototyperspective Exactly! Thank you, Polygnotus (talk) 12:31, 16 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

WP:BLP and talk pages

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Figured I'd drop by and say that I continued to think about the issue of how to interpret the BLP policy in the context of talk page discussions, and I now agree that I went way overboard in saying that it was a BLPVIO to introduce any SPSs into the discussion. I now recognize that there can be good reasons for introducing them into the discussion / that doing so can be relevant to improving an article, even though they can't be used in the article itself. Hope all's well with you. FactOrOpinion (talk) 03:53, 17 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@FactOrOpinion: Some people pretend that we are here to write an encyclopedia to teach others. In reality, most of us are here to learn (and discover and grow)! Nice work on the Deportation of Kilmar Abrego Garcia article! Thank you, Polygnotus (talk) 04:06, 17 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I'd say that I'm here for both. Re: the Abrego Garcia article, thanks, we've got a good group of editors working on it. Not sure of where you hail from, but I'm American and am deeply distressed by what the Trump Admin. is doing in so many areas. I'm contributing to a few articles, but there are so many where the content needs to be improved. FactOrOpinion (talk) 15:51, 17 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@FactOrOpinion The damage caused by the Trump administration is also deeply distressing to us old world monkeys; especially those of us who read the news and know a bit of history. It is a chilling reminder how fragile our system is, and how "civilization" is only a thin veneer.
I do some volunteer work, but I am not ashamed to say I am mostly here to learn. I read far more than I edit. We live in interesting times. Polygnotus (talk) 23:56, 17 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
It doesn't surprise me that people are distressed outside the US, as the Trump admin. is doing so much harm internationally (to so many people in developing countries, to our relationships with allies, to the global economy, and emboldening authoritarians elsewhere). I think most people want people everywhere to be well, so even if the damage were only domestic, I'm sure that some outside the US would be concerned.
I do a fair amount of outside reading in order to figure out what content to add, and I'm a slow editor, but I try to make some headway in a few of the articles that are meaningful to me. FactOrOpinion (talk) 00:21, 18 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@FactOrOpinion The ABC interview with Terry Moran is a thing of beauty. It is unclear who the real Moran is. Polygnotus (talk) 06:32, 30 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Arthur Hastings Sloggatt moved to draftspace

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Thanks for your contributions to Arthur Hastings Sloggatt. Unfortunately, I do not think it is ready for publishing at this time because it needs more sources to establish notability, you may have a possible Conflict of Interest and one of the sources is written by the subject's son. I have converted your article to a draft which you can improve, undisturbed for a while.

Please see more information at Help:Unreviewed new page. When the article is ready for publication, please click on the "Submit your draft for review!" button at the top of the page OR move the page back. Sarsenet•he/they•(talk) 11:15, 30 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Sarsenet Wrong guy. Polygnotus (talk) 11:17, 30 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, I notified you as you had moved the article from userspace to mainspace originally. Figured I'd let you know. Sarsenet•he/they•(talk) 11:21, 30 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Ok thank you. Polygnotus (talk) 11:25, 30 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The image problem

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A cartoon image appears in the Infobox because this is still a draft, even though in the draft content the image is of him at his drafting board. It's a distraction. Consider removing the image for now, and reinserting it only after the draft is accepted. David notMD (talk) 13:36, 30 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@David notMD It was added to Template:Infobox comics creator back in 2009. You can submit an editrequest using this link but remember to mention that they should do an insource search in the Template namespace to find more. Polygnotus (talk) 13:39, 30 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Have at it.

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I'm posting here, per WP:TPG, as I'm not making any specific suggestions for improving the article. But regarding your comment here, I encourage you to go for it - make those improvements to the article. I've made many in the past, when the article was truly rife with WP:PROMO and WP:NOT content, and I'm happy to see other editors take a shot. JoJo Anthrax (talk) 14:14, 2 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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