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25.3.15

05.04.02























Full House- the game in progress

In July 1902 Alexander McDougall, a building contractor and timber merchant of Partick, appeared at Glasgow Circuit Court charged with Culpable Homicide.
In 1899  Glasgow Rangers had decided to invest £12,000 on ground improvements at Ibrox (the eventual cost was £20,000).  McDougall had submitted an estimate of £5280 to construct timber terraces in the ground. The charges were based on the assertion that McDougall had used inferior pine in the construction and had not built the beams and joists in the requisite manner. After a 2 day trial a unanimous verdict of not guilty was delivered.
This, of course, was a postscript to the Ibrox Disaster. The collapse of the terracing during the Scotland v England match on 05.04.02 had led to the deaths of 25 spectators and more than 500 people had been injured.




Remarkably, reports of the abandoned match appeared in the press. The opening line of the account below beggars belief. 


Incidentally- this was the first occasion on which both nations had fielded exclusively professional teams.
In the first half of the match Scotland were attacking the western end of the ground at which the accident occurred. There are conflicting accounts of the incident. It would appear that the terrace collapsed after about 15 minutes play, and that play was suspended for about 20 minutes before the decision was made to play on.
Officially the match is recorded as abandoned and does not count towards the official records of the Football Association of the Scottish FA.






























4.1.15

Old Trafford 1910





The Manchester Courier, 21.02.10

Its not just teams and individual players that make up the rich fabric of football history, but places too, iconic venues.
Manchester United's Old Trafford ground is one of the great venues in World Football. 
Opened in 1910, Old Trafford was Manchester United / Newton Heath's 3rd home. 
From 1878  to 1893 Newton Heath played at North Road. The highest attendance recorded at this ground was approximately 15,000 for a Division 1 game against Sunderland (04.03.93).
The second ground was Bank Street. The capacity was 50,000. In the last match United played there, however, the attendance was just 5,000 (22.01.10).



The opening match at Old Trafford (19.02.10) drew a crowd in excess of 50,000.
In 1911 58,000 watched the replayed FA Cup Final between Bradford City and Newcastle United. Old Trafford's 2nd FA Cup Final, the Khaki Final of 1915 (Sheffield United v Chelsea) had an attendance of 49,557. 
70,504 saw United lose 3-1 to Aston Villa (27.12.20) and the ground's first international (England 0 Scotland 1, 17.04.26) was attended by a crowd of 

49,429.



Sandy Turnbull scored the first ever goal at Old Trafford, for United in a 4-3 loss to Liverpool. 

29.11.14

Souvenir


A curious memento. And for tissue paper to survive 100 years...
Described as follows in an auction catalogue:
1910 F.A. Cup third round commemorative tissue Imprinted 'Souvenir of the English Cup third round Played at St James Park Newcastle Saturday Feb. 19th 1910', with team pictures and annotation of players names underneath. Floral flag design to outer edges. Printed by Mrs S.Burgess of Bishopsgate, London.

If we look at the teams that played that day we will see that there was plenty of quality on show.  Blackburn Rovers were 3rd in Division 1 and Newcastle United 6th. 

Newcastle United


Blackburn Rovers

Jimmy Lawrence

G

Jimmy Ashcroft

Billy McCracken

RB

Bob Crompton

Tony Whitson

LB

Arthur Cowell

Colin Veitch

RH

Albert Walmsley

Wilf Low

CH

George Chapman

Peter McWilliam

LH

Billy Bradshaw

Jock Rutherford

OR

Billy Garbutt

Jimmy Howie

IR

Eddie Latheron

Albert Shepherd

CF

Ellis Crompton

Sandy Higgins

IL

Wattie Aitkenhead

George Wilson

OL

Walter Anthony


The 54,000 crowd brought in receipts in excess of £2000 (described in the contemporary press as 'an enormous sum').
Higgins opened the scoring in the first minute ( a quick short drive). Rutherford added a second in the 25th minute but Rovers immediately pulled one back through Anthony. Howie completed the scoring in the second half.


12.10.14

Hull City

Hull City supporters at The Boulevard, 1904
Hull City A.F.C. were founded on 28 June 1904. Kingston upon Hull was a  Northern Union (Rugby League) stronghold, and previous attempts to establish Association in the city had failed.
The club was formed too late in the year to apply for membership of the Football League, so in their first season they played only friendly matches.  The early matches were played at The Boulevard, home of rugby side Hull FC. This groundsharing scheme (costing the football club £100 a year) soon ended . They began their League career playing at The Circle, a cricket ground, and in 1906 established a stadium at  Anlaby Road. 
There were 6,000 at The Boulevard to see City's first match, a 2-2 draw with Notts County on 1st September 1904.

The white jerseys were soon abandoned in favour of black and amber stripes

Hull's prompt elevation to The Football League reflects the way in which the League actively promoted clubs in Yorkshire in order to challenge the dominance of Rugby League and get a share of a lucrative market.
City played their first League match on September 2nd 1905, beating Barnsley 4-1 at The Circle.
Here's the Hull line up: 



GK

Martin Spendiff


From North Shields, Spendiff joined City from Grimsby Town.


FB

Ambrose Langley            


This was Langley’s last season in the Football League- he joined Hull from The Wednesday, where he had spent 11 seasons. He featured in the League Championship winning sides of 1903 and 1904. He was player manager and was in charge of City until 1913. He later managed Huddersfield Town.


FB

Tom Jones


This was Shropshire born Jones’ only season of League football.


HB

Bill Martin


Just 4 League appearances for Londoner Martin in 1905-06. He joined from Millwall Athletic and moved back south to join Clapton Orient for the following season.


HB

William Robinson

Robinson joined Hull having made just 1 League appearance for Manchester City.

He played 119 League matches for Hull before moving on to Bolton Wanderers in 1908.


HB

Davy Gordon


10 seasons at Hull having joined from Leith Athletic. Played 270 games for Hull and later managed Hibernian and Hartlepools United. 


OR

George Rushton


Previous League experience with Burslem Port Vale.


IR

George Spence


The second Scotsman in the team, Spence started off at St Mirren. He played League football for Gainsborough Trinity and Preston North End, punctuated with spells with a variety of Southern League clubs.  Returned to Scotland (Clyde) after one season at Hull, Scored Hull’s first ever league goal.


CF

David 'Soldier' Wilson


Boer War veteran Wilson began his professional career in Scotland (he was an Englishman), Transferred to Leeds City in December 1905. Died of a heart attack he suffered when playing during the Leeds City v Burnley match on 27.10.06.


IL

Peter Howe


15 goals in 32 League matches- later joined Leeds City.


OL

Andrew Raisbeck


Scotsman- was at Liverpool along with his legendary brother, Alec, but never made the first team.  Emigrated to Canada after 2 season at Hull.





8.6.14

19th Century Attendances

Fallowfield

In the dingy nineteenth century towns the proletariat found little opportunity for enjoyment.
Eric Dunning
In terms of social class, crowds at Football League matches were predominantly drawn from the skilled working and lower-middle classes... Social groups below that level were largely excluded by the admission price...the Football League, quite possibly in a deliberate attempt to limit the access of poorer (and thus supposedly "rowdier") supporters, raised the minimum adult male admission price...
Dave Russell 
ENGLAND

season

FA Cup Final

England v Scotland

Football League Clubs

Highest Average

Highest

1871-72

2,000

The Oval, London




1872-73

3,000

Lillie Bridge,

London

2,500 to 4,000 The Oval, London



1873-74

2,000

The Oval, London




1874-75

…quite 1,000 (1)

Replay=unknown

The Oval, London

2,000

The Oval, London



1875-76

3,500

1,500

The Oval, London




1876-77

3000

The Oval, London

2,000 to 3,000

 The Oval, London



1877-78

4,500

The Oval, London




1878-79

a much larger company than been seen at Kennington Oval in the present season The Oval, London

4,500

The Oval, London



1879-80

Upwards of 2,000

The Oval, London




1880-81

c. 4,000

The Oval, London

8,500

The Oval, London



1881-82

6,000

The Oval, London




1882-83

c. 7,000

The Oval, London

7,000

Bramall Lane, Sheffield



1883-84

12,000

The Oval, London




1884-85

12,500

The Oval, London

8,000

The Oval, London



1885-86

15,000

The Oval, London





12,000

Racecourse,

Derby


1886-87

15,500

The Oval, London

12,000

Leamington Street, Blackburn



1887-88

19,000

The Oval, London




1888-89

27,000

The Oval, London

10,000

The Oval, London

7,260

Anfield, Liverpool (2)

15,000

(Preston North End)

Anfield, Liverpool

1889-90

20,000

The Oval, London


10,110

Anfield, Liverpool

18,000

(Preston North End)

Anfield,
Liverpool

1890-91

23,000

The Oval, London

10,000

Ewood Park,

Blackburn

11,375

Anfield,

Liverpool

16,000

(Accrington & Preston North End)

Anfield,

Liverpool

1891-92

25,000

The Oval, London


10,730

Anfield,

Liverpool

16,000

(Blackburn Rovers, Accrington & Preston North End)

Anfield,

Liverpool

1892-93

45,000 (3)

Fallowfield Athletics Stadium, 


Manchester
16,000

Richmond Athletic Ground, London

13,230

Goodison Park, Liverpool

27,500

(Preston North End)

Goodison Park, Liverpool

1893-94

37,000 (4)

Goodison Park,

Liverpool


13,520

Goodison Park, Liverpool

27,500

(Sunderland)

Goodison Park, Liverpool

1894-95

42,560

Crystal Palace, London

42,500

Goodison Park,

Liverpool

17,420

Goodison Park, Liverpool

35,000

(Sunderland)

Goodison Park, Liverpool

1895-96

48,836

Crystal Palace, London


16,080

Goodison Park, Liverpool

30,000

(Aston Villa)

Goodison Park, Liverpool

1896-97

65,891

Crystal Palace, London

33,715

Crystal Palace, London

15,840

Goodison Park, Liverpool

40,000

(Liverpool)

Goodison Park, Liverpool

1897-98

62,017

Crystal Palace, London


17,390

Villa Park, Birmingham

50,000

(Sheffield United)

Villa Park, Birmingham

1898-99

73,833

Crystal Palace, London

25,590

Villa Park, Birmingham

23,045

Villa Park, Birmingham

41,000

(Liverpool)

Villa Park, Birmingham

1899-1900

68,945

Crystal Palace, London


18,765

Villa Park, Birmingham

60,000

(Sunderland)

Villa Park, Birmingham


(1) Italicised estimates come from contemporary press reports 
(2) Anfield was Everton's ground at this time
(3) Chaotic scenes: official attendance was 45,000, there were probably 60,000 in the ground, affecting the progress of the match.
(4) Again, the official figure. Probably far more in attendance. 
For the League highest the visitors are shown in brackets.


Crystal Palace


SCOTLAND


season

Scottish Cup Final

Scotland v England

League Clubs

Highest

 Average

Highest

1871-72


5,000

Hamilton Crescent,

Glasgow



1872-73





1873-74

2,500

Hampden Park 1, Glasgow

4,000

Hamilton Crescent,

Glasgow



1874-75

7,000

Hampden Park 1, Glasgow




1875-76

6,000

Hamilton Crescent,

Glasgow

12,000

Hamilton Crescent,

Glasgow



10,000 Hampden Park 1, Glasgow

1876-77

8,000

15,000

12,000

Hamilton Crescent,

Glasgow




1877-78

5,000

Hampden Park 1, Glasgow

10,000

Hampden Park 1, Glasgow



1878-79

9,000

Hampden Park 1, Glasgow




1879-80

4,000

Hampden Park 1, Glasgow

12,000 Hampden Park 1, Glasgow



1880-81

15,000

10,000

Kinning Park

Glasgow




1881-82

12,500

14,000

Cathkin Park, Glasgow

10,000 Hampden Park 1, Glasgow



1882-83

15,000

12,000

Hampden Park 1, Glasgow




1883-84


10,000

Cathkin Park, Glasgow



1884-85

3,000

5,500

Hampden Park 2, Glasgow




1885-86

7,000

Cathkin Park, Glasgow

11,000

Hampden Park 2, Glasgow



1886-87

15,000

Hampden Park 2, Glasgow




1887-88

10,000

Hampden Park 2, Glasgow

16,000

Hampden Park 2, Glasgow



1888-89

17,000

13,000

Hampden Park 2, Glasgow




1889-90

11,000

13,000

Ibrox Park, Glasgow

26,379

Hampden Park 2, Glasgow



1890-91

10,836

Hampden Park 2, Glasgow


5,673

Rangers

12,000

Rangers

(Dumbarton)

1891-92

40,000

26,000

Ibrox Park, Glasgow

20,000

Ibrox Park, Glasgow

7,636

Celtic

16,000

Celtic

(Heart of Midlothian)

1892-93

18,771

13,239

Ibrox Park, Glasgow



9,111

Celtic

15,000

Celtic

(Renton)

1893-94

17,000

Hampden Park 2, Glasgow

45,107

Celtic Park, Glasgow

7,188

Celtic

14,000

Celtic

(Leith Athletic)

1894-95

10,000

Ibrox Park, Glasgow


7,889

Celtic

24,000

Celtic

(Heart of Midlothian)

1895-96

17,034

Logie Green,

Edinburgh

51,345/56,500

Celtic Park, Glasgow

10,367

Celtic

25,500

Celtic

(Rangers)

1896-97

14,000

Hampden Park 2, Glasgow


11,333

Celtic

25,000

Celtic

(Heart of Midlothian)

1897-98

13,000

Hampden Park 2, Glasgow

40,000

Celtic Park, Glasgow

13,056

Celtic

50,000

Celtic

(Rangers)

1898-99

25,000

Hampden Park 2, Glasgow


12,241

Celtic

44,868

Celtic

(Rangers)

1899-1900

15,000

Ibrox Park, Glasgow

63,000

Celtic Park, Glasgow

11,889

Rangers

48,000

Rangers

(Celtic)


For the League highest the visitors are shown in brackets.










Celtic Park